Infertility Info & Support

Discussion in 'The Hens' Nest' started by Comet, Jan 4, 2017.

  1. MagnificentCat

    MagnificentCat Chicken

    I think some clinics go more woo than others. Like did acupuncture really help me? Who knows. RE was happy I started doing it, and I’m starting it again. But at the end of the day there are a lot of “add on” requirements that may or may not change outcomes.
     
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  2. moose

    moose RINGWORM GIRL :(

    I’m with @CoolWife. There is sooo much fat shaming and fat phobia associated with pregnancy. I vividly remember giving birth and them immediately saying they needed to blood sugar checks on the baby because I am diabetic. Uh, except I’m not. Just fat. I had to have them pull up the numerous glucose tests so they would believe that a fat person is not diabetic.
     
  3. Lh718

    Lh718 Chicken

    Being overweight does have a negative affect on ovulation due to increased estrogen levels. If a person is prediabetic or has type 2 diabetes, the increased insulin might also hinder ovulation. For men, it's about lower sperm quality.
     
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  4. moose

    moose RINGWORM GIRL :(

    But if you’re pursuing IVF, doesn’t ovulation technically not matter at that point? Unless it hinders follicle development. But I was under the impression that you can mature a follicle and never release the egg, which can be caused by estrogen levels.
     
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  5. Lh718

    Lh718 Chicken

    I was also told by my gyn that being overweight lowered my chances of implantation and increased my risk for miscarriage [ETA] both on our own or through IVF. I don't know if that aspect is tied to the estrogen or something else.

    It's clearly not a fate written in stone, as many women of various levels of health and weight get pregnant and have healthy babies. I'm just sharing what I was told, which might be why the clinics are kinda strict about it.
     
  6. moose

    moose RINGWORM GIRL :(

    Oh no I know, I’m not questioning you or your facts personally. It just seems a little “STFU you're wrong” to apply the Fat People Can’t Get Pregnant stroke so broadly. Again not you, mostly MDs that I have experienced and heard about.
     
  7. Honey

    Honey Historian Staff Member

    Except that it’s still sizist bullshit to deny a couple the same chance to try because that one factor might decrease their likelihood of success. @Kimmers is right; they don’t want their success rates to lower and therefore choose to be arbitrary gatekeepers against larger women.
     
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  8. moose

    moose RINGWORM GIRL :(

    I forgot about that filter but it still works so I will leave it :lol:
     
  9. Lh718

    Lh718 Chicken

    NGL, my weight wasn't the top reason we opted not to go through IVF, but it was definitely in the Cons column.

    It's neat because it's one more reason to hate myself and my body. Maybe the MDs should consider that consequence.
     
  10. CoolWife

    CoolWife Chicken

    Evidence is correlation at best and it’s some eugenics-level bullshit to deny fat people the opportunity to have kids.
     
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  11. moose

    moose RINGWORM GIRL :(

    I am fat and I will try to have a baby again. I’ll try to lose some weight so my blood pressure can’t be attributed to my weight like it was last time. My BP is normal/borderline (130/80s) and my spikes were written off as preexisting hypertension. Only my MFM team believed me because they knew it was a placental issue that caused the BP issues in the first place. Nothing like having medical issues written off as “sry ur fat. here’s celery”.
     
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  12. Cashmere Bandit

    Cashmere Bandit Minion moocher

    I agree it's sizest bullshit - but I am already unhappy with my weight and was losing it before this was even on the radar, so this doesn't bother me on a practical level, rather on an intellectual and philosophical one. If this wasn't my only option (geographically and benefits/insurance wise), I'd look into other places. But it is. I can't reinforce this enough, guys - my pituitary gland is shot. I need these people's help. So when they say jump, I'm going to say "How high?"

    There are plenty of things that they'll turn you away for, or work with you on before giving you treatments. This is just the one that applies to me, so it's the only one I mentioned or had questions about.
     
  13. moose

    moose RINGWORM GIRL :(

    Just to be clear @Cashmere Bandit no one has an issue with you. You do what you need to do and we are here to support you through it.
     
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  14. calicat

    calicat Queen of the Eggs

    What Moose said. To your original question - my doctor told us at our initial consultation that yeah, I could lose 5lbs if I so chose, but he'd seen much larger women than I get pregnant and he didn't really see an issue with pregnancy and weight. To be fair he also reminded me that people who do drugs conceive all the time so my RE is a little lax I guess!

    Oh! He was a fan of the keto diet though (full disclosure I did not do keto at any point)
     
  15. CoolWife

    CoolWife Chicken

    WSS. You get your baby however you can!
     
  16. moose

    moose RINGWORM GIRL :(

    @calicat why keto? Just curious. I’ve been considering the diet for nonTTC purposes.
     
  17. calicat

    calicat Queen of the Eggs

    If I remember correctly (I kind of tuned him out to be honest), it's because with keto you eliminate a lot of the inflammatory food like gluten, sugar, etc.
     
  18. Honey

    Honey Historian Staff Member

    The PCOS possibility may have been a factor in that too, IIRC. Since PCOS can often go hand in hand with insulin resistance, they tend to recommend Keto/low carb diets to help curb that.
     
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  19. hellohelloagain

    hellohelloagain Chicken

    I have the same issue but I know my blood pressure spikes are anxiety related. One of the nurses called it "white coat syndrome." I, so many times, had to say "check my pressure again please and I'm sure it will be normal" and lo and behold it would be normal again.
     
  20. MagnificentCat

    MagnificentCat Chicken

    Yep. And insulin resistance is just a polite way of saying “prediabetes.” Also since inflammation is an issue with PCOS they also may recommend cutting other foods that may trigger inflammation.
     
  21. calicat

    calicat Queen of the Eggs

    Yeah though he was convinced I did not have PCOS whereas my OBGYN was like "mayyyybeee?". My A1C has always been perfect though
     
  22. MagnificentCat

    MagnificentCat Chicken

    My fasting A1C has always been fine. My insulin resistance diagnosis was based on a 3-hour glucose test and how long it took for my blood sugar to come down, like this:
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  23. calicat

    calicat Queen of the Eggs

    They never did that test on me. That's really helpful to know though @MagnificentCat
     
  24. MagnificentCat

    MagnificentCat Chicken

    Yeah, I didn’t want to second guess your RE because it’s super easy to do from my armchair, but I thought it was weird a reproductive endocrinologist didn’t run it if PCOS is even suspected. I was asked a ton of questions when my RE started zeroing in on it (initially he thought thyroid from family history) from unwanted facial hair to how easy it was for me to lose weight on traditional diets (spoiler alert: it’s almost impossible and I lose weight very slowly even when adhering strictly to the plan). He had to give me the entire rundown for what exactly he was looking for because I sure as hell didn’t want to sit around a lab for 3 hours waiting for blood draws. But I also assumed if I had PCOS I would have been diagnosed long before I hit 32 and obviously that didn’t happen. On the plus side, I know how it can impact my health later on and take measures to hopefully keep my insulin issues at pre- rather than turning into diabetes.
     
  25. Kimmers

    Kimmers Chicken

    Looks like we’ll be transferring a boy embryo next week! I went into my pre-op appointment yesterday armed with a list of questions to help me decide and my RE took me completely off guard when she let me know that I don’t actually get to choose! I guess it’s their policy that they just use the highest rated embryo regardless. Which never occurred to me since my last clinic let you pick. I was pretty surprised and I spent a few hours wallowing in having the choice taken from me but now I’m over it and feeling pretty excited - yay boy! I know my highest rated embryo has a perfect rating so fingers firmly crossed he nestles right in. I’m pretty worried about it because so much of IVF with endo is just doing your best and hoping it works (there’s not a lot known about exactly wtf endo is doing to prevent you from getting/staying pregnant). But I feel like we’ve truly done everything possible for this cycle between the months of Lupron, the surgery, the endometrial “scratch” etc. so all I can do now is hope. In about 3 weeks I’ll be peeing on sticks!
     
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