Chickens at work

Discussion in 'Free Range' started by CoolWife, Mar 12, 2014.

  1. MagnificentCat

    MagnificentCat Chicken

    @Imabug1002 Sounds like you need a Director of Innovation to streamline the process, shift some paradigms, and think outside of the box.
     
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  2. user4058

    user4058 Chicken

    Don't forget the synergy.
     
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  3. user3695

    user3695 Chicken

    These are great ideas. Lets circle back to them.
     
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  4. virgo

    virgo Chicken

    I finally have 17 out of 28 kids on the Canvas website! I call that a win. I know I’ll be able to get some more but it won’t be all 28 unfortunately. At least those 17 now have access to the assignments and announcements.
    I had a Zoom meeting today for the kids having technical difficulties so I could screen share and show them how to do the things. One parent signed in to the meeting with his kid and I was so annoyed. I teach 5th and 6th graders. They don’t need their parents doing everything for them. This student is capable and she looked embarrassed that he kept asking questions. If he does it again, I will be frank with him and tell him these meetings are for students only.
     
  5. user63

    user63 Chicken

    Can you grant like a 5 minute grace period for parents to hop on and ask questions or something? I know parents are a PIA, but it seems a little unreasonable to ask them to be completely hands off if they feel they need to be involved. I would not feel entirely comfortable with that request. Granted, I'm used to working with much younger kids and my kids are younger as well, but it still feels weird to me. They're not exactly high schoolers.
     
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  6. Canaligator

    Canaligator Barbie Police

    I would cut parents a lot of slack right now. We are all adjusting to these changes and if the guy wants to have a better idea of what learning looks like for his child, what is the harm?
     
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  7. MagnificentCat

    MagnificentCat Chicken

    From my interactions with friends and their children, at that age kids start being embarrassed by their parents regardless of their ability. The kid being embarrassed has nothing to do with it being appropriate or not. And if it was specifically about technical issues and not their school work, how is that out of bounds?
     
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  8. user3695

    user3695 Chicken

    What if you sent an email offering a parent info session and then asked that outside of that students join alone. You could say its to help mimic the classroom environment and foster independent learning. I just say this as the person who had “that parent” in my mom, I would be MORTIFIED if you said something to her in front of everyone.
     
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  9. user4030

    user4030 Chicken


    I really like this idea! It’s kind of like a “Back to School Night” but for distance learning.
     
  10. virgo

    virgo Chicken

    Much of the problem is that my parents don’t speak english. The kid understood more than her dad did which made it irritating. This meeting was specifically for kids who had questions on how to do certain things which the parents have nothing to do with. The parents do have a way to contact me if they have questions and they know that. This parent was very much being a helicopter parent and was trying to do everything for his kid even though she understood and he didn’t. He needed to back off. I have a lot of parents who have had questions and they asked me on the site they’re supposed to. No excuse for this guy. I’m not going to have a video meeting for the parents because I don’t have a translator. The communication site I’m using with them automatically translates messages back and forth and it hasn’t been an issue. 5th and 6th graders are older than people seem to think. They’re very capable of working independently.

    eta- when I said technical difficulties, I didn’t mean internet or computer problems. I should’ve worded it better. Some students were having a hard time figuring out how to join a Google Classroom and how to join Canvas. Those are things at their age that they need to learn how to do and not have their parents doing for them.
     
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  11. Canaligator

    Canaligator Barbie Police

  12. virgo

    virgo Chicken

    @fantasynerd if you have to communicate with your parents at all, I highly recommend ClassDojo. I can’t remember if you were already using it.
     
  13. moose

    moose RINGWORM GIRL :(

    Idk I kind of think the language barrier is important to consider in this situation. There may be cultural differences we don’t see or understand.
     
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  14. user63

    user63 Chicken

    10-12 year olds are capable of a lot. Of course. But they're used to having a teacher, and parents now have to step into that role. If all we ever had to do was type out some instructions and give an example and tell them to do it, then we wouldn't need teachers anyway. Parents really do need to be involved in this process. I understand that they don't need to be involved in every aspect, for the whole time, and shouldn't be doing it for the students. I think it would be worth your time to set up some clear guidelines and limitations, like @whatchyagonnado suggested. Parents need to know what to expect and what is expected of them as much as the students need those clear guidelines. This is new to everyone.

    eta: and it's worth considering that the world is a shit show right now and there is so much that is out of everyone's control. A lot of people start to gravitate towards things that they can control, and for a parent who might be working less/not at all with children now at home, that focus might shift to their education. I think families who have parents who speak limited/no English will feel additional pressure and fear of their child falling behind, and even more loss of control.
     
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  15. virgo

    virgo Chicken

    I do have guidelines in a Google doc that was shared with the parents. It outlines what the students need to be doing and how the parents can contact me. I just updated it being more clear about the meetings being only for students. I told the parents that the meetings are our new classroom and that is why parents should not be in them. I guess I shouldn’t have assumed that parents would understand if a meeting is posted on the student site that it is for students only. The doc is now very clear about that.
    Honestly, I worry about their kids falling behind too. I’m already worried about a kid who barely spoke english but was making progress. That progress is going to be lost and I’ve tried contacting the mom (sent her a ClassDojo invite through email and she never signed up) and a bilingual counselor tried also. I’m trying not to add stress to these kids lives. I have a strong suspicion that at least one of them is now in charge of siblings. I don’t want them to worry about the meetings. I’ll probably have impromptu meetings with them when they have time. I also have a feeling that a lot of the parents aren’t working/getting paid right now. The whole situation sucks.
     
  16. virgo

    virgo Chicken

    Thank you. :kiss: I can't even imagine trying to do special Ed distance learning. I keep thinking about the kids at my school and wondering how in the hell they're going to do this.
    The other thing that's really bothering me is not being able to see my kids every day. I knew my kids. I knew when something was wrong just based on their attitude and I was able to help them through problems. Now I have no idea how they're doing because I can't read them through a video. I checked in with my favorite kid tonight because he's been pretty quiet and that's not like him. We ended up having a Zoom meeting. He's ok. He was just overwhelmed. He was also worried he would have to repeat 6th grade because of this. I said no you're definitely going to middle school next year.
     
  17. Kimmers

    Kimmers Chicken

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  18. MagnificentCat

    MagnificentCat Chicken

    I think it’s worse because there’s less separation than before. Like I would check my emails off hours before, but now I feels like there’s no actual end to the work day since everyone’s hours are messed up. Could you take some vacation tine to carve out some “away” time?
     
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  19. Kimmers

    Kimmers Chicken

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  20. Chevere

    Chevere Chicken

    @Kimmers insurance of most types is stressful af in the best of times. It all sucks, but try to be kind to yourself and truly walk away at the end of the day and see what mental gymnastics may work to disconnect. It is incredibly difficult to not take your work with you everywhere, I know that for sure but it's necessary.
     
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  21. Kimmers

    Kimmers Chicken

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  22. user63

    user63 Chicken

    We did our first Google Meets meeting with the students instead of Zoom. It's.... not great :/ I can appreciate the security measures, but it's hard. I can only mute people one by one, and then I can't unmute them myself. I understand the logic of that (protecting privacy), but when working with 4 and 5 year olds.... it's definitely an added challenge. We'll figure it out. It'll be fine.
     
  23. virgo

    virgo Chicken

    That’s frustrating @Apples&Oranges! We’ve been using Google Meets for our staff meetings. It’s a shit show with adults so I can only imagine it with 4 and 5 year olds.
     
  24. Zoomzoom

    Zoomzoom Old Curmudgeon

    I go back to work (remotely) on Monday and I am having some feelings about it. I'm only 50% time to start out to ease myself back in and since I'm at home I'll get to see A, but I'm sad to be going back. Within the first few weeks of having her I couldn't wait to get back to work and I've never thought I'd be the type to be giving staying home a serious thought. I know it's best for everyone that I work. I'm just emotional.
     
  25. moose

    moose RINGWORM GIRL :(

    It may be what’s best, but it is really hard and it’s okay to be emotional. I remember sobbing on and off the day before because I couldn’t imagine being without her. I promise it does get better, and it only helps you enjoy time with her more (who thought it was even possible!).
     
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