Milkmaids!

Discussion in 'The Hens' Nest' started by Apples&Oranges, Nov 1, 2017.

  1. TaterTot

    TaterTot Rulebitch

    We approached it like switching dog food. Keep adding a little of the new stuff at a time. Cosign Gerber Gentle.
     
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  2. RoryGilmore

    RoryGilmore Chicken

    When experimenting with formula, it’s also good to see if there are any lactose sensitivities. We used a soy formula for C, since the regular stuff causes a reaction. (Thankfully, she grew out of it. Phew.)
     
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  3. Apples&Oranges

    Apples&Oranges Chicken

    (Agreed that formula tastes awful compared to BM)
     
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  4. MagnificentCat

    MagnificentCat Chicken

    Well this explains why M (though hungry) shut his mouth and looked at me rather indignantly the last time I tried to give him some.
     
  5. deet

    deet Chicken

    Yeah human milk tastes like leftover cereal milk. Formula is really bitter compared to that.
     
  6. Dorothygale

    Dorothygale Chicken

    I’m honestly amazed babies tolerate formula at all. M is on Similac Alimentum and even a drop of that shit has me full on gagging :sick: E had the Costco stuff, but it wasn’t as nasty as this.

    ETA - Pretty much what everyone else has said, mix a little at a time until he’s fully switched over. E had reactions to different brands, and M couldn’t tolerate anything with dairy in it. Do you guys get samples down there? Here lots of people sign up to companies for sample packs before baby is born and then often moms will post them on local swap sites for free if they didn’t use them. So if you have that, it’s a nice way to try some different brands instead of buying a full case if he doesn’t respond well to it.
     
  7. moose

    moose RINGWORM GIRL :(

    Okay so, someone talk to me about exclusively pumping (if anyone has experience). I’m trying to figure out if my milk production at 1 week pp is WNL or if I should be doing something to fix it.

    When I pump, I’m usually getting about 2oz total. Is that typical for the beginning? Or should I be concerned that it should be picking up by now?
     
  8. Apples&Oranges

    Apples&Oranges Chicken

    For the first time I think that might still be normal. Is the milk still kind of yellow? With S, my milk didnt come in fully until ~10 days or so? I was supplementing before that. With D it was faster but that was the 2nd time around. The regular, white BM was coming in by day 3 with him, but I still had the yellowish colostrum milk with S until day 5-6ish.
     
  9. moose

    moose RINGWORM GIRL :(

    It is mostly white at this point. Is there anything I can do to boost the milk production, or am I kinda behind the 8 ball at this point?
     
  10. Apples&Oranges

    Apples&Oranges Chicken

    Based on my experience with S, it could still ramp up. How often do you pump?
     
  11. ClamJam

    ClamJam Chicken

    2oz per pump at this point is right on track with your baby's stomach size at 1 week old!

    ETA: I EP'd with baby 1 and am still nursing baby 2 (she's almost 2 yo). Do what you think is best, but after having both experiences, I would choose to spend the time/effort/pain on visits with a BF Dr or good LC rather than pumping more. Formula is great where you want or need it, too!
     
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  12. Apples&Oranges

    Apples&Oranges Chicken

    I have my own BFing problems.

    I am so done. I dont mind nursing him down to the initial sleep, but he keeps waking up and refuses to sleep in when I have to get up for work. I try all the tricks that worked with S ("boobies have to go to sleep, you can have more in the morning." Or "you can nurse for the count of 10 but when we get to 10 we have to say bye to the boobies. ") He just will not go for it. I dont really want to force him cold turkey because theres just a lot going on with me at work and him starting school and the general struggle of life as a 2 year old. But Ugh. I wish he would make this easier.
     
  13. whatchyagonnado

    whatchyagonnado Chicken

    @moose My supply took awhile after J to fully come in- I’d say 2-3 weeks. I used Honest breastfeeding supplements (found at Target) and some lactation cookies (also at Target) and drank tons of water and gatorade (yellow but because its the only one I like haha). Also warm showers with your boobs in the water.
     
  14. moose

    moose RINGWORM GIRL :(

    How many times per day should I pump? I would love to breastfeed her but right now we are trying to work on some feeding difficulties and the MDs don’t want her to waste calories with breastfeeding. I would prefer exclusive breastmilk so I’m trying to make sure I have enough for her. If not, fed is best so I’ll do formula but I’d rather not.
     
  15. Fitz

    Fitz Leslie Knope Monster

    @Apples&Oranges I baaaaaaaaasically did cold turkey with C, right after his 2nd bday. Our situation is different - I was bf'ing first thing in the morning, but that was it. Over the month before, I had decreased the time, and followed bf'ing immediately with breakfast. I was away end of July for my sister's bachelorette, and after that I was done. I told him that "nurse" was all gone when he asked, and offered a drink, snack, or other activity. There were definitely some meltdowns. Feeding him toast for breakfast helped, because I could distract him with letting him take the bread out of the bag, putting it in the toaster, and pressing the button.Two weeks after weaning I almost caved because he had molars come in and had HFM and was just miiiiiiiiiiserable.

    My tactics may or may not work for you, but rest assured if you go cold turkey, you can do it! <3
     
  16. Tumnus

    Tumnus Chicken

    It's amazing to me how different siblings can be. Is he bedsharing? At like 1.5 S would be fine with waiting until morning and would just snuggle in and sleep, even though getting him to sleep was (and is) a nightmare. If E is by me he just wants to root around all night so now he sleeps in his own space (a pack n play, we don't have anywhere in their bedroom to put the crib). I read him a couple of books, we sing, he nurses for a minute or so and I put him down and he just goes to sleep. It's amazing and I didn't know kids could do that lol. S still wants me to lay with him while he falls asleep.
     
  17. deet

    deet Chicken

    Outside of BF, cold turkey has been the best method for our household for all the things. It sucks more for us, than them. My ped said to not make big changes if they're sick or there's been some other thing going on - but other than that, go for it.

    I am getting ready to do it with the pacifier with M. I don't know when he starts school, but maybe wait until it's been 2 weeks after he's been in school or so and cut the kid off. I feel like winter sickness will have you trapped AF if you don't do something quick!
     
  18. MagnificentCat

    MagnificentCat Chicken

    @moose I lived on this website the first couple of months: https://exclusivepumping.com/

    At first I pumped 7x a day. The first goal was to adjust my body to not needing to pump overnight. Mastitis hit. Added sunflower lecithin and tried again. Got to 6 during the day. Finally down to 4x per day and I feel like this is a happy place where I’m not just pumping all the time.

    We did a combo breastmilk and formula at first until my supply regulated. I don’t think it needs to be an all-or-nothing thing.
     
  19. RogueLlama

    RogueLlama Chicken

    @moose if you’re trying to boost your milk supply, you could also try pumping more frequently to mimic a cluster feeding baby as that’ll help. I drank (and still do) a ton of water and at least one 28 ounce body armor drink a day. I’ve found the lengendairy milk supplements help my supply increase when it’s been lagging a little for whatever reason the lengendairy milk instagram also has great tips on pumping and increasing milk supply. I nurse when I’m with E, but pump at work and hit a dip in my supple a couple of months ago. I followed their advice and got my supply back up to producing what he needs.
     
  20. CoolWife

    CoolWife Chicken

    I sent you a pm with data but you’re fine, that’s well within normal. You can take supplements and eat oatmeal and power pump but you shouldn’t need to yet.
     
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  21. Apples&Oranges

    Apples&Oranges Chicken

    He pretty much only nurses at night. So the midnight cry battle that results in him horking is a hard cold Turkey battle :/ the other night he was crying for like an hour before I finally just gave in. He actually got mad at me and only wanted J. He NEVER prefers J over me. While it stung a little, I would have been cool with it if he actually settled, but he just started back up with the crying again.

    @Tumnus yeah, bed sharing. I dont want to buy a toddler bed for him so we are just waiting on a bunk bed. To be honest, I'm kind of dragging my feet on it because once we switch to a bunk, we have to go down to twin size. S has a very comfortable full size bed and its convenient for when we need to lay down with her, or sleep in separate beds because of illness or whatever. And yes, they're so different! S still wants someone to stay with her until she falls asleep too (which is luckily pretty quick, generally). And she was fine without nursing but she had to cuddle close and always kept her hand down my shirt. D turns away once he's finished and kind of star fishes on the bed lol (or props his legs up on my legs or the bed rail).
     
  22. Zoomzoom

    Zoomzoom Old Curmudgeon

    I know you'd prefer to avoid formula @moose, but if needed we supplemented with formula to start and A has been exclusively breastfed since 2 weeks on. It can just be a temporary measure.
     
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  23. whatchyagonnado

    whatchyagonnado Chicken

    Same here for with J!
     
  24. moose

    moose RINGWORM GIRL :(

    We have been supplementing with formula. Things have been really difficult at the hospital, medically, since her birth and I haven’t been coping very well. Like, I’m somewhat convinced I’m dealing with some sort of post traumatic stress/anxiety/depression and the only way I’m handling it is by trying to control her feeding. Abnormal, but true.
     
  25. CoolWife

    CoolWife Chicken

    Not abnormal at all. <3
     

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