Discussion in 'The Hens' Nest' started by Apples&Oranges, Nov 1, 2017.

  1. TaterTot

    TaterTot Rulebitch Staff Member

    Yeah. It’s hard. It’s up to you. You don’t need to justify or explain anything here. <3
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  2. CoolWife

    CoolWife Chicken

    The best thing you can do for your family is to take care of yourself. <3 If you don't want to - don't. If you'd feel better "trying" for a week or a month, do that and then reevaluate. If you know it's not for you and you'll be a better mom (of two!) when K can give her a bottle of Enfamil at 3am, you don't have to explain to anyone.
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  3. hallokween

    hallokween Chicken

    Yeah. I think I’ll give it until my milk comes in and reevaluate. I saw another LC this morning and her latches are not as painful now, but she has been on one of my boobs 100% of the day so far and just cries if she’s not. It’s a lot, but I’m feeling a little better.

    Formula still solidly on the table, though.
  4. Apples&Oranges

    Apples&Oranges Chicken

    Bfing is so super hard in the beginning, especially with another little one to care for too. If we had an accidental #3, I don't think I would choose to BF again unless the baby had some miracle easy latch. I'd pump until i was tired of it, then formula feed. Whatever works best for you is best.
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  5. Comet

    Comet Chicken

    I'm two weeks away from starting to taper off breastfeeding. I've got a lot of feels about it and I'm not in a hurry to get him off the boob, but deep down I know it's probably time... weaning should have a big positive impact on my prolapse symptoms.

    I think part of my anxiety is because I have no idea how to wean him. I don't know what formula we want to give him yet, how I should go about using up my frozen milk (use all up before starting any formula? feed him both for a while so he's getting boob, frozen milk, AND formula as we taper off the boob...seems complicated), and I've never even given him a bottle. I don't know the "rules" about formula like I do for breastmilk, etc. I know I can just Google some of this, but I haven't gotten around to it yet.

    Breastfeeding is the only thing that has come easily for me (physically at least) in this entire journey and I am really sad to give it up.
  6. MagnificentCat

    MagnificentCat Chicken

    Probably try formula before using up your stash to see if C takes to it. That way if he’s picky or you need to transition him, you won’t have the stress of finding something on a rapid deadline. M suddenly decided he hated the formula we previously used for late-night feedings back when he was a newborn.

    (I probably need to try a couple different samples we got, I guess mixed with breastmilk, but I’m afraid he’ll turn his nose up at it too.)
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  7. deet

    deet Chicken

    When I stopped pumping, I mixed the bottles until he was fully transitioned to formula. In my experience, the amount of formula did not change from his BM consumption.

    NGL - I tried my own milk & formula tastes heinous compared to it, but M didn't really seem to mind the difference. We used Similac Total Comfort with G ($$$$$$$$$$$) and with M we used Gerber Gentle.
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  8. TaterTot

    TaterTot Rulebitch Staff Member

    We approached it like switching dog food. Keep adding a little of the new stuff at a time. Cosign Gerber Gentle.
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  9. RoryGilmore

    RoryGilmore Chicken

    When experimenting with formula, it’s also good to see if there are any lactose sensitivities. We used a soy formula for C, since the regular stuff causes a reaction. (Thankfully, she grew out of it. Phew.)
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  10. Apples&Oranges

    Apples&Oranges Chicken

    (Agreed that formula tastes awful compared to BM)
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  11. MagnificentCat

    MagnificentCat Chicken

    Well this explains why M (though hungry) shut his mouth and looked at me rather indignantly the last time I tried to give him some.
  12. deet

    deet Chicken

    Yeah human milk tastes like leftover cereal milk. Formula is really bitter compared to that.
  13. Dorothygale

    Dorothygale Chicken

    I’m honestly amazed babies tolerate formula at all. M is on Similac Alimentum and even a drop of that shit has me full on gagging :sick: E had the Costco stuff, but it wasn’t as nasty as this.

    ETA - Pretty much what everyone else has said, mix a little at a time until he’s fully switched over. E had reactions to different brands, and M couldn’t tolerate anything with dairy in it. Do you guys get samples down there? Here lots of people sign up to companies for sample packs before baby is born and then often moms will post them on local swap sites for free if they didn’t use them. So if you have that, it’s a nice way to try some different brands instead of buying a full case if he doesn’t respond well to it.
  14. moose

    moose RINGWORM GIRL :(

    Okay so, someone talk to me about exclusively pumping (if anyone has experience). I’m trying to figure out if my milk production at 1 week pp is WNL or if I should be doing something to fix it.

    When I pump, I’m usually getting about 2oz total. Is that typical for the beginning? Or should I be concerned that it should be picking up by now?
  15. Apples&Oranges

    Apples&Oranges Chicken

    For the first time I think that might still be normal. Is the milk still kind of yellow? With S, my milk didnt come in fully until ~10 days or so? I was supplementing before that. With D it was faster but that was the 2nd time around. The regular, white BM was coming in by day 3 with him, but I still had the yellowish colostrum milk with S until day 5-6ish.
  16. moose

    moose RINGWORM GIRL :(

    It is mostly white at this point. Is there anything I can do to boost the milk production, or am I kinda behind the 8 ball at this point?
  17. Apples&Oranges

    Apples&Oranges Chicken

    Based on my experience with S, it could still ramp up. How often do you pump?
  18. ClamJam

    ClamJam Chicken

    2oz per pump at this point is right on track with your baby's stomach size at 1 week old!

    ETA: I EP'd with baby 1 and am still nursing baby 2 (she's almost 2 yo). Do what you think is best, but after having both experiences, I would choose to spend the time/effort/pain on visits with a BF Dr or good LC rather than pumping more. Formula is great where you want or need it, too!
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  19. Apples&Oranges

    Apples&Oranges Chicken

    I have my own BFing problems.

    I am so done. I dont mind nursing him down to the initial sleep, but he keeps waking up and refuses to sleep in when I have to get up for work. I try all the tricks that worked with S ("boobies have to go to sleep, you can have more in the morning." Or "you can nurse for the count of 10 but when we get to 10 we have to say bye to the boobies. ") He just will not go for it. I dont really want to force him cold turkey because theres just a lot going on with me at work and him starting school and the general struggle of life as a 2 year old. But Ugh. I wish he would make this easier.
  20. whatchyagonnado

    whatchyagonnado Chicken

    @moose My supply took awhile after J to fully come in- I’d say 2-3 weeks. I used Honest breastfeeding supplements (found at Target) and some lactation cookies (also at Target) and drank tons of water and gatorade (yellow but because its the only one I like haha). Also warm showers with your boobs in the water.
  21. moose

    moose RINGWORM GIRL :(

    How many times per day should I pump? I would love to breastfeed her but right now we are trying to work on some feeding difficulties and the MDs don’t want her to waste calories with breastfeeding. I would prefer exclusive breastmilk so I’m trying to make sure I have enough for her. If not, fed is best so I’ll do formula but I’d rather not.
  22. Fitz

    Fitz Leslie Knope Monster

    @Apples&Oranges I baaaaaaaaasically did cold turkey with C, right after his 2nd bday. Our situation is different - I was bf'ing first thing in the morning, but that was it. Over the month before, I had decreased the time, and followed bf'ing immediately with breakfast. I was away end of July for my sister's bachelorette, and after that I was done. I told him that "nurse" was all gone when he asked, and offered a drink, snack, or other activity. There were definitely some meltdowns. Feeding him toast for breakfast helped, because I could distract him with letting him take the bread out of the bag, putting it in the toaster, and pressing the button.Two weeks after weaning I almost caved because he had molars come in and had HFM and was just miiiiiiiiiiserable.

    My tactics may or may not work for you, but rest assured if you go cold turkey, you can do it! <3
  23. Tumnus

    Tumnus Chicken

    It's amazing to me how different siblings can be. Is he bedsharing? At like 1.5 S would be fine with waiting until morning and would just snuggle in and sleep, even though getting him to sleep was (and is) a nightmare. If E is by me he just wants to root around all night so now he sleeps in his own space (a pack n play, we don't have anywhere in their bedroom to put the crib). I read him a couple of books, we sing, he nurses for a minute or so and I put him down and he just goes to sleep. It's amazing and I didn't know kids could do that lol. S still wants me to lay with him while he falls asleep.
  24. deet

    deet Chicken

    Outside of BF, cold turkey has been the best method for our household for all the things. It sucks more for us, than them. My ped said to not make big changes if they're sick or there's been some other thing going on - but other than that, go for it.

    I am getting ready to do it with the pacifier with M. I don't know when he starts school, but maybe wait until it's been 2 weeks after he's been in school or so and cut the kid off. I feel like winter sickness will have you trapped AF if you don't do something quick!
  25. MagnificentCat

    MagnificentCat Chicken

    @moose I lived on this website the first couple of months:

    At first I pumped 7x a day. The first goal was to adjust my body to not needing to pump overnight. Mastitis hit. Added sunflower lecithin and tried again. Got to 6 during the day. Finally down to 4x per day and I feel like this is a happy place where I’m not just pumping all the time.

    We did a combo breastmilk and formula at first until my supply regulated. I don’t think it needs to be an all-or-nothing thing.

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