Milkmaids!

Discussion in 'The Hens' Nest' started by Apples&Oranges, Nov 1, 2017.

  1. moose

    moose RINGWORM GIRL :(

    How do you know when to drop one/how do I drop one?
     
  2. Kimmers

    Kimmers Chicken

    I need to start weaning and I just really don’t want to. *whine*
     
  3. MagnificentCat

    MagnificentCat Chicken

    @moose So currently with the amount of solids he is eating, he is drinking about 50% of the milk I produce, so I am freezing a ton each day. Currently I pump 4x per day (no nursing) at 5:30 AM, 11:30 AM, 4:30 PM (usually shorter than the other sessions), and right before bed at 9 PM. I’m working to move the 11:30 pump session further back so it’s roughly halfway between morning and nighttime pumping and just drop 5 minutes at a time for the evening pump.

    My supply is pretty stable at pumping between 100-120 minutes each day which works out to 20-30 minutes per pump. I’m not sure what will happen if I’m down to 70-90 minutes per day.

    I’ll probably be uncomfortable at first and will have to increase the amount of sunflower lecithin for a bit, but I can make it 10 hours between pumping (weekends if kid let’s us sleep in). I would like to be down to pumping 2x per day (morning and night) starting next year just because it makes life easier even if it means goodbye to my work sanctuary.

    I dropped the overnight pumping session around the 3-month mark. He started sleeping through the night and I have an oversupply issue, so between keeping my freezer from overflowing and getting more sleep, that was my priority. I get mastitis any time I slack off on the sunflower lecithin. On the plus side, I did not have postpartum hair loss, possibly from the extra oil (or so my stylist tells me). But I went cold turkey with that one. You’re supposed to start gradually increasing the time between a session and the next and keep all others the same.
     
  4. Rico Suave

    Rico Suave Chicken

    @moose honestly I started dropping sessions when I felt like I needed to for my own sanity but I was EPing. I don’t think there’s a right or wrong time. Echoing what Magcat said, just gradually increase the amount of time between sessions.
     
  5. MagnificentCat

    MagnificentCat Chicken

    Yeah, as soon as I read the magic “120 minutes per day” I was like fuck this, I am not pumping 8x per day. I was pumping 6x per day within the first month and down to 5x by 6 weeks. If my supply had tanked then, I was willing to supplement with formula since we already did that overnight rather than wait to warm a bottle. Basically a brief pros and cons.
     
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  6. nym711

    nym711 THIS IS MY LIFE NOW

    For me, I EP'd, and every pump I dropped seemed to eventually drop my supply down 10 oz or so. It also took me forever to wean.
     
  7. moose

    moose RINGWORM GIRL :(

    Ughhh def can’t drop a session yet then because my supply is already just enough (24oz/day)
     
  8. Comet

    Comet Chicken

    I feel this so much. I am basically weaning as slow as possible, dropping a pump every couple of weeks and using freezer milk to make up for the resulting deficit. I'm down to two pumps a day on work days only, even though I'm working longer days now. We're going to introduce formula tomorrow so we can extend the amount of time he gets at least some BM and to make sure he will take it before I drop any more pumps.

    @moose Prior to this taper, I would just experiment with # of pumps per day and time between pumps. I figured out that I got just as much milk if I pumped after his first morning feed when he started STTN and then twice at work as I did when I tried to fit in three work day pumps plus the early morning pump (note: I was only working 6 hour days with about another 1.5 hours total commuting). I had an oversupply until I started dropping pumps though.
     
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  9. MagnificentCat

    MagnificentCat Chicken

    There are some different things you can try to see if they have any effect while pumping— breast compressions, warming pad, lactation massager (great for clogs). I empty more and faster using my pumping pal shields.
     
  10. moose

    moose RINGWORM GIRL :(

    How much more do you get when using the shields?
     
  11. MagnificentCat

    MagnificentCat Chicken

    For first pump of the day sometimes up to 4oz. For subsequent pumps, about 2oz.
     
  12. moose

    moose RINGWORM GIRL :(

    The area in my left armpit is suddenly super painful. There’s a lump under the skin but it really hurts to lift my arm or lower my arm fully. Pressing on the area is brutal. Can’t tell if it’s a clogged duct but omfg.
     
  13. Rico Suave

    Rico Suave Chicken

    Hot shower and massage, girl. I’m sure you know this, but keep an eye out for flu-like symptoms. Mastitis is no joke. :no:

    I got a super painful armpit lump while I was still in the hospital with A and I thought I was dying. I’m sorry! I hope it goes away soon!!
     
  14. MagnificentCat

    MagnificentCat Chicken

    Work it out quick! My first round of mastitis started as a clog under my left armpit.
     
  15. moose

    moose RINGWORM GIRL :(

    @Rico Suave @MagnificentCat I can’t even tolerate touch to the area though. I’m doing warm compresses and trying to empty my breast but what do I do if I can’t massage?!
     
  16. whatchyagonnado

    whatchyagonnado Chicken

    @moose is it for sure boob? Because I had an abscess that sounds just like that (was clearly armpit and not boob in my case).
     
  17. MagnificentCat

    MagnificentCat Chicken

    When I get a clog, I take Tylenol and massage it out in 2 minute intervals because that’s all I can take. It hurts, but it is so less painful and of shorter duration than getting mastitis. And I know I keep saying this but if you’re not currently taking sunflower lecithin, you need to get some.
     
  18. moose

    moose RINGWORM GIRL :(

    @MagnificentCat i did start the sunflower lecithin thankfully so hopefully this is infrequent.

    @whatchyagonnado i considered an abscess/cyst too. My milk output on that side has decreased significantly which made me think clog, but maybe not.
     
  19. Kimmers

    Kimmers Chicken

    Have you tried hot compresses? Use a diaper (holds the heat longer) and keep it in there in between attempts to massage. I think heat is key, I’d grab as many hot showers as you can and do the massaging there.
     
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  20. moose

    moose RINGWORM GIRL :(

    So I’m wondering if it’s related to a sudden change in my milk production. I pump 8x day or roughly every 3 hours. Lately I’ve been getting full faster and needing to pump every 2 hours or I’ll start leaking/feeling uncomfortable.
     
  21. megatron

    megatron Wordsmith

    That’s possible. The only thing I would caution is if you keep pumping that often. Your milk supply adjusts to demand, so the more you pump/nurse, the more milk your body will produce. You don’t want to be dealing with a big oversupply if you can help it. It can be extremely uncomfortable, at best.
     
  22. moose

    moose RINGWORM GIRL :(

    I would looove to pump less but can’t figure out how to without compromising the supply. Any suggestions?
     
  23. megatron

    megatron Wordsmith

    How much are you currently pumping vs how much is she eating?

    I think you mentioned you are doing feeds every 2.5 hours right now? I’d maybe start by pumping at that same 2.5 hour schedule. Basically try to mimic her feeding schedule for now.

    I leaked a lot the first 3/4 months especially, before my milk supply stabilized and switched to more “on demand” than ready to go in your breast. It may be a bit uncomfortable and leaky at first but it should hopefully even out soon for you. If she gets close to a growth spurt, you’ll know because she’ll want to eat more / cluster feed.
     
  24. moose

    moose RINGWORM GIRL :(

    @megatron she eats about 22oz/day and I’m pumping between 26-27. If I switch to every 2.5 hours I’ll actually be pumping more frequently than I was before this started. Will that help stave off an oversupply?
     
  25. megatron

    megatron Wordsmith

    Hopefully! Lol. I’m not a LC, but I would think trying to match to her feeding schedule is your best bet to stabilize supply to her needs for now. You can always back it down to that 2.5 hours then again to 3 hours once it’s settled again. The biggest thing with pumping or nursing is that you don’t want to make drastic changes quickly because that’s when clogs and mastitis can hit you. Or when you pump/nurse too often, it will jump up your supply (which is fine for a growth spurt but not something you always want to have happening).
     

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