Discussion in 'Free Range' started by fantasynerd, May 30, 2017.
Disney does have rides that aren’t related to film.
For example, space mountain.
LOL, not for long. Bob Chapek thinks there should be an IP attached to every attraction.
This just seems like a bad hill to die on. The ride features characters and songs from a racist film. I can't believe it took this long to change it.
that was my point, I can’t stand that. They better leave spaceship earth alone.
But I’m not dying on the hill lol. I acknowledged that ridding the ride of racist connotations is great. Just not sure why yet another movie tie in is needed.
I can't either. The only thing I hope they preserve from the Magic Kingdom version is that one of the Animatronic animals still shouts, "FSU!" But even if not, as long as the train still rides through the Disneyland one, I'm cool with whatever happens. It's dogshit how little representation The Princess and the Frog has in the parks. Tiana's Place should exist as a restaurant in New Orleans Square, and should have for ten years now.
As HBC said, what would be more fitting than replacing racist branding with a beloved black princess?
Eta: and the cynic in me says they want to sell more merchandise.
OMJG, this would be awesome.
I feel that way about Mulan. Mulan could have kickass theming either through a restaurant, a ride or an experience. It’s easily one of their top 10 characters.
There is just no way the current operations execs will sign off to spend money on a refurbishment that doesn't promote their intellectual property. It's, like, the new philosophy. Aside from attractions built entirely on sponsorship money and used as living ad space, there hasn't been a ride built in a domestic Disney park that didn't feature a film since Animal Kingdom opened.
And while we’re at it, it’s a small world has some work to do on the racism front, too.
You leave Mary Blair out of this.
I've never ridden It's a Small World and am okay never doing so.
I get it. It just limits their creativity. I saw pieces of the haunted mansion that they did in (I believe) HK and it’s just amazing. Here everything is limited to IP.
BT-dubs, Space Mountain totally uses Star Wars audio now.
Even the re-theme of Tower of Terror. Why was it needed?
I’m not saying it’s right or I agree with the IP Everything mentality at all. But the only way I get any say in it is voting with my wallet. To that end, I can’t see myself going back to Walt Disney World anymore and I’ve felt that way for a few years now. I’ll always have a soft spot for Disneyland though.
I want to go to Disneyland.
You need to. P took me a few years ago during Christmas season. It was beautiful and magical and perfect, and I'm never going back, lol.
This particular ride was already based on a movie, so I truly don't understand what the argument is.
It would be really nice to redeem Br'er Rabbit and Br'er Bear. I wish there was a way to feature them in a series of animated shorts or something that could kind of re-contextualize those characters outside of Song of the South. It's still high time for the ride to change, though. It's wild to me that it was ever built with those characters in the first place, especially since Eisner had decided a full five years earlier that the movie would never get a home video release in the USA.
I totally get feeling nostalgic over something you’ve loved and made memories with. And I agree that not everything always needs an IP tie-in. Haunted Mansion is one of my favorite rides. But Song of the South is SO problematic and I’ve wondered for years why they haven’t re-themed because of that. I think this was a really well chosen theme - gives Tiana a much more significant presence, still fits well with the “Deep South” vibe, and I think the movie offers lots of opportunity for really beautiful settings within the ride.