Disney Parks! (and maybe Universal)

Discussion in 'Free Range' started by fantasynerd, May 30, 2017.

  1. moose

    moose RINGWORM GIRL :(

    Disney does have rides that aren’t related to film.
     
  2. moose

    moose RINGWORM GIRL :(

    For example, space mountain.
     
  3. Honey

    Honey Historian Staff Member

    LOL, not for long. Bob Chapek thinks there should be an IP attached to every attraction.
     
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  4. Canaligator

    Canaligator Barbie Police

    This just seems like a bad hill to die on. The ride features characters and songs from a racist film. I can't believe it took this long to change it.
     
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  5. moose

    moose RINGWORM GIRL :(

    that was my point, I can’t stand that. They better leave spaceship earth alone.
     
  6. moose

    moose RINGWORM GIRL :(

    But I’m not dying on the hill lol. I acknowledged that ridding the ride of racist connotations is great. Just not sure why yet another movie tie in is needed.
     
  7. Honey

    Honey Historian Staff Member

    I can't either. The only thing I hope they preserve from the Magic Kingdom version is that one of the Animatronic animals still shouts, "FSU!" But even if not, as long as the train still rides through the Disneyland one, I'm cool with whatever happens. It's dogshit how little representation The Princess and the Frog has in the parks. Tiana's Place should exist as a restaurant in New Orleans Square, and should have for ten years now.
     
  8. Zombie Llama

    Zombie Llama Ain't no corn bitch

    As HBC said, what would be more fitting than replacing racist branding with a beloved black princess?

    Eta: and the cynic in me says they want to sell more merchandise.
     
  9. A. Ham

    A. Ham Chicken

    OMJG, this would be awesome.
     
  10. moose

    moose RINGWORM GIRL :(

    I feel that way about Mulan. Mulan could have kickass theming either through a restaurant, a ride or an experience. It’s easily one of their top 10 characters.
     
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  11. Honey

    Honey Historian Staff Member

    There is just no way the current operations execs will sign off to spend money on a refurbishment that doesn't promote their intellectual property. It's, like, the new philosophy. Aside from attractions built entirely on sponsorship money and used as living ad space, there hasn't been a ride built in a domestic Disney park that didn't feature a film since Animal Kingdom opened.
     
  12. HBC

    HBC Chicken

    And while we’re at it, it’s a small world has some work to do on the racism front, too.
     
  13. Honey

    Honey Historian Staff Member

    You leave Mary Blair out of this.
     
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  14. Zoomzoom

    Zoomzoom Old Curmudgeon

    I've never ridden It's a Small World and am okay never doing so.
     
  15. moose

    moose RINGWORM GIRL :(

    I get it. It just limits their creativity. I saw pieces of the haunted mansion that they did in (I believe) HK and it’s just amazing. Here everything is limited to IP.
     
  16. Honey

    Honey Historian Staff Member

    BT-dubs, Space Mountain totally uses Star Wars audio now.
     
  17. moose

    moose RINGWORM GIRL :(

    Even the re-theme of Tower of Terror. Why was it needed?
     
  18. moose

    moose RINGWORM GIRL :(

    WHAT.
     
  19. Honey

    Honey Historian Staff Member

    I’m not saying it’s right or I agree with the IP Everything mentality at all. But the only way I get any say in it is voting with my wallet. To that end, I can’t see myself going back to Walt Disney World anymore and I’ve felt that way for a few years now. I’ll always have a soft spot for Disneyland though.
     
  20. moose

    moose RINGWORM GIRL :(

    I want to go to Disneyland.
     
  21. Lh718

    Lh718 Chicken

    You need to. P took me a few years ago during Christmas season. It was beautiful and magical and perfect, and I'm never going back, lol.
     
  22. Canaligator

    Canaligator Barbie Police

    This particular ride was already based on a movie, so I truly don't understand what the argument is.
     
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  23. moose

    moose RINGWORM GIRL :(

    Okay.
     
  24. Honey

    Honey Historian Staff Member

    It would be really nice to redeem Br'er Rabbit and Br'er Bear. I wish there was a way to feature them in a series of animated shorts or something that could kind of re-contextualize those characters outside of Song of the South. It's still high time for the ride to change, though. It's wild to me that it was ever built with those characters in the first place, especially since Eisner had decided a full five years earlier that the movie would never get a home video release in the USA.
     
  25. Kimmers

    Kimmers Chicken

    I totally get feeling nostalgic over something you’ve loved and made memories with. And I agree that not everything always needs an IP tie-in. Haunted Mansion is one of my favorite rides. But Song of the South is SO problematic and I’ve wondered for years why they haven’t re-themed because of that. I think this was a really well chosen theme - gives Tiana a much more significant presence, still fits well with the “Deep South” vibe, and I think the movie offers lots of opportunity for really beautiful settings within the ride.